Today (march 5th,2009) me and friends from elementary / junior high school that same contemporary David Hartanto (Ming2), went to the Hertanto's family's house just to convey condolences, and seek the truth because we know that David will not do the things like that made by the media. There we met by brother David, and their parents, our chance came along with a large family Hartanto, so we more conversation with older brother David, the Willian Hartanto, or formerly called Weha. The long steep in this case, the more the open curiosity, and to start the show telling the truth, we are grateful to colleagues at NTU David edwin namely, we know he bet for the bachelor title reveal the truth, and we also want to help spread the news Indeed, although a-been and continue to be covered by the NTU-
gaffes that we have are:
1. The emergence of the news that Professor David Chan Kap Luk, and suicide, although there is no slice used in the wrist, as made, and from which appear in the news? For what appear false news that David cut circle hands?
2. When the family arrived there monday night after the incident, the family would like to see David corpse, but by some parties be certain, for reasons already regulations, of course, should the family, especially when the family still shock. And when allowed to see the condition remains the next day, the family is only allowed to see the corpse to the top of the neck, while the other body parts have been covered plastic. Hartanto family has also confirmed to the Singapore police, no injuries at the wrist. When the family Hartanto also see in front of the neck (area below the neck shoulders) there are many injured stucco. Question. To what family Hartanto waiting 1 days to see the corpse of their own family uterus? Why corpse must be covered by plastic? What is a rule like that? Or only a certain length pihak2 only to cover the reality? Of origin in the neck wound? Why bloody corpse David looks quite severe in the posterior?
3. When the family arrived in TKP monday night, because they are not allowed to view the corpse, the family came to NTU to see TKP, but until now, the police found no blood or of the former police line. Great is not it? Only in about 7 hours since the incident, has been clean TKP total, there buru2 reason to clean TKP?
4. Then came the family room to see David, and what is found? In fact all the computer equipment in the room it all up. Is that a suicide would be set off all computer equipment? Even according to the testimony of a friend, David MSN account is still up. Does this look like David would like to end his life? Even he still play games online up to 2 hours in the morning
day event with friends before the look in David family.
5. In the room behind the bag professor David that he always bring, and what he Tebak bring in a protective carrying case? Towel and a bottle of mineral water 1.5 L. (All who know Ming2 surely know, dikelas, since elementary school, Ming2 always bring a towel, sometimes even hang in the neck while in class, he can always bring a lot of water because his mom to always leave a lot of water consumed). Whether the murder, and suicide, will bring the goods like that? Will be much easier to bring a knife sebilah large (greater than 10cm sized knife that appears in the TKP, which either belong to whom).
6. Hinder the family be when trying to meet with Professor Chan Kap Luk, with reason, at that time that he was in ICU, and in reality? Day wednesday the Professor has been out of the hospital. Is there a record of suffering a severe puncture wound must be signed in ICU, it can be out of the hospital in less than 2 days? Professor Benarkan the injured? Or just read the newspaper while relaxing in the ICU?
7. When families want to meet with "witnesses" who saw David jumps from the floor 4, the NTU inhibit the reason it must be concealed. Okay, if so, where we know that there are people who Benar2 see if David Benar2 jump, not fall or be the person?
8. Data about David and FYP (Final Year Project) have been deleted from its database NTU. Only in 2 days, remove the data directly NTU FYP topics that David is being worked on, is there any special reason behind it keterburu-NTU parties to remove the data? Do not think you want to have one of the students berprestasinya, instead of immediately deleting data, as if David was never a student there?
9. Singapore police holding property Laptops and David will be restored after the investigation is completed. For what?
10. Knife in the TKP, reportedly originating from the hall 4, the results of the investigation? Or only essay? A friend said that the NTU lecturers usually have a small knife in ruangannya used to cut fruit. So? It was a knife owned by David Hartanto or Kap Luk Chan?
11. Time of occurrence is approximately 10 minutes. 45 Singapore time on Monday, will not be strange if only very few students who witnessed the incident and there? Is there pressure from the NTU to close the mouth?
12. Weapon found that fruit-knife 10cm-found without stem, where gagangnya? Why not do fingerprint analysis? Clearly not be possible without using a skewer handle of a knife, so anyone who knows who pounce, there is certainly gagangnya, but pemberitaannya not yet clear.
The italics are not based on any media, and just be the speculation that the NTU, klarifikasinya following:
1. David intends to kill Profesornya ago suicide jump. In the room there is only David and Professor, David has been no, and that the testimony can be heard only from the Professor, from which we know that the testimony is correct? Without adequate bukti2, Professor testimony can not be used as a reason to blame David.
2. David said, because of school stress is revoked, he was even a target, that is a rage to lecturers pembimbingnya. Is not it very strange terdengan? David knew very clearly that the school dismissed because of performance decline, not one of the Professor. The families have been notified since the first day that the school be notified, and the families receive, and able to pay for them, David also took biasa2 only about school dismissal. For those who know him, he certainly knew that the person who is very cuek, this can also be viewed from the post edwin.
3. It is said also, that depression, because David is not able to finish FYPnya. A colleague there, David said that David FYP almost finished. He did not return to Indonesia at the end of the semester ago, because you want to concentrate FYPnya complete. For those who know David, especially with our school friends, of course know, David was hooked since first game, but 1 thing, he always do the task and PRnya well, without the aid of others let alone copying the work of others. So, if the lecturer said he pembimbingnya because FYPnya not complete, it does not Benar2 entry diakal.
4. David also made disappear from the crowd for about 1 week before the incident, but the family know the real David, David being FYPnya concentrate to finish, so the statement that David disappeared from the association as are depression and want to kill is not valid, because at that time he a lot of chats with brother, and even play games online with friends in Indonesia. Looks like a depression, people want to kill the lecturers? Not at all!
At this time the facts which appear after the purge is telling the media:
1. David died falling from the floor 4, in the slice without the injured wrist, and the wound in the neck, and the posterior berlumuran blood.
2. Professor out of the hospital in 2 days.
3. Knife is not clearly derived from, and found without a handle.
4. The university cloak this incident.
Speculation and possibilities David What is the professor when he is being couch facing a computer screen? If that is correct, it is not possible at this time professor has been returned to the house with healthy wal afiat. Whether the professor is that the David? This is possible, because the evidence and facts that have led to these conclusions. Motifnya Then what? Until now, only God and Professor Chan Kap Luk know. However, at this time santer outstanding news that the Professor would like to seize the property of David FYP. This is supported by the testimony of a friend David says David FYP is almost finished. What may be a Professor and lecturers from universities in developed countries would seize the property of FYP students themselves? In fact, it is very possible
occurred. A person who is hearing news about the death of David told a friend on a course-A-, that a professor at NTU, in a different direction, to give a value D on the A FYP, and the professor offers to create a new FYP, and he will give the value B, provided that the previous FYP will become the property of the Professor. What sounds strange? Yes, the professor would like to seize the property rights to the FYP A with iming2 value. So this is actually not new at NTU, only this time it ends tragic end for David because he does not want to give rights to FYPnya. Once again, this is speculation, but it is far more logical than the media coverage and NTU. Ming, at this time I have ever lo, I have more that we can do for lo, in addition to the lo pulihin name, and declare the truth, a quiet rest lo aja there. RIP, ming. Guys, how do I now what the families are trying Hartanto opponent? NTU, a famous university singapore government! For comparison is at ITB.
What can be done a few people: the family who only live Hartanto smth, the size of the family teman2, amounting to tens of hundreds? NTU is it against? Yes! How? We must declare the truth must be revealed sejelas2nya without the diubah2 or ditutup2i. At this time, we as fellow users, please deposit it-width of this, so many people more concerned about this case and the investigation will be done more, at least not until the people who think that David was guilty, because it is clearly not correct. Tell this to friends, relatives, and I copylah any posts in this blog / forum / facebook / myspace you, I will not charge for copyright. Thanks.
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gaffes that we have are:
1. The emergence of the news that Professor David Chan Kap Luk, and suicide, although there is no slice used in the wrist, as made, and from which appear in the news? For what appear false news that David cut circle hands?
2. When the family arrived there monday night after the incident, the family would like to see David corpse, but by some parties be certain, for reasons already regulations, of course, should the family, especially when the family still shock. And when allowed to see the condition remains the next day, the family is only allowed to see the corpse to the top of the neck, while the other body parts have been covered plastic. Hartanto family has also confirmed to the Singapore police, no injuries at the wrist. When the family Hartanto also see in front of the neck (area below the neck shoulders) there are many injured stucco. Question. To what family Hartanto waiting 1 days to see the corpse of their own family uterus? Why corpse must be covered by plastic? What is a rule like that? Or only a certain length pihak2 only to cover the reality? Of origin in the neck wound? Why bloody corpse David looks quite severe in the posterior?
3. When the family arrived in TKP monday night, because they are not allowed to view the corpse, the family came to NTU to see TKP, but until now, the police found no blood or of the former police line. Great is not it? Only in about 7 hours since the incident, has been clean TKP total, there buru2 reason to clean TKP?
4. Then came the family room to see David, and what is found? In fact all the computer equipment in the room it all up. Is that a suicide would be set off all computer equipment? Even according to the testimony of a friend, David MSN account is still up. Does this look like David would like to end his life? Even he still play games online up to 2 hours in the morning
day event with friends before the look in David family.
5. In the room behind the bag professor David that he always bring, and what he Tebak bring in a protective carrying case? Towel and a bottle of mineral water 1.5 L. (All who know Ming2 surely know, dikelas, since elementary school, Ming2 always bring a towel, sometimes even hang in the neck while in class, he can always bring a lot of water because his mom to always leave a lot of water consumed). Whether the murder, and suicide, will bring the goods like that? Will be much easier to bring a knife sebilah large (greater than 10cm sized knife that appears in the TKP, which either belong to whom).
6. Hinder the family be when trying to meet with Professor Chan Kap Luk, with reason, at that time that he was in ICU, and in reality? Day wednesday the Professor has been out of the hospital. Is there a record of suffering a severe puncture wound must be signed in ICU, it can be out of the hospital in less than 2 days? Professor Benarkan the injured? Or just read the newspaper while relaxing in the ICU?
7. When families want to meet with "witnesses" who saw David jumps from the floor 4, the NTU inhibit the reason it must be concealed. Okay, if so, where we know that there are people who Benar2 see if David Benar2 jump, not fall or be the person?
8. Data about David and FYP (Final Year Project) have been deleted from its database NTU. Only in 2 days, remove the data directly NTU FYP topics that David is being worked on, is there any special reason behind it keterburu-NTU parties to remove the data? Do not think you want to have one of the students berprestasinya, instead of immediately deleting data, as if David was never a student there?
9. Singapore police holding property Laptops and David will be restored after the investigation is completed. For what?
10. Knife in the TKP, reportedly originating from the hall 4, the results of the investigation? Or only essay? A friend said that the NTU lecturers usually have a small knife in ruangannya used to cut fruit. So? It was a knife owned by David Hartanto or Kap Luk Chan?
11. Time of occurrence is approximately 10 minutes. 45 Singapore time on Monday, will not be strange if only very few students who witnessed the incident and there? Is there pressure from the NTU to close the mouth?
12. Weapon found that fruit-knife 10cm-found without stem, where gagangnya? Why not do fingerprint analysis? Clearly not be possible without using a skewer handle of a knife, so anyone who knows who pounce, there is certainly gagangnya, but pemberitaannya not yet clear.
The italics are not based on any media, and just be the speculation that the NTU, klarifikasinya following:
1. David intends to kill Profesornya ago suicide jump. In the room there is only David and Professor, David has been no, and that the testimony can be heard only from the Professor, from which we know that the testimony is correct? Without adequate bukti2, Professor testimony can not be used as a reason to blame David.
2. David said, because of school stress is revoked, he was even a target, that is a rage to lecturers pembimbingnya. Is not it very strange terdengan? David knew very clearly that the school dismissed because of performance decline, not one of the Professor. The families have been notified since the first day that the school be notified, and the families receive, and able to pay for them, David also took biasa2 only about school dismissal. For those who know him, he certainly knew that the person who is very cuek, this can also be viewed from the post edwin.
3. It is said also, that depression, because David is not able to finish FYPnya. A colleague there, David said that David FYP almost finished. He did not return to Indonesia at the end of the semester ago, because you want to concentrate FYPnya complete. For those who know David, especially with our school friends, of course know, David was hooked since first game, but 1 thing, he always do the task and PRnya well, without the aid of others let alone copying the work of others. So, if the lecturer said he pembimbingnya because FYPnya not complete, it does not Benar2 entry diakal.
4. David also made disappear from the crowd for about 1 week before the incident, but the family know the real David, David being FYPnya concentrate to finish, so the statement that David disappeared from the association as are depression and want to kill is not valid, because at that time he a lot of chats with brother, and even play games online with friends in Indonesia. Looks like a depression, people want to kill the lecturers? Not at all!
At this time the facts which appear after the purge is telling the media:
1. David died falling from the floor 4, in the slice without the injured wrist, and the wound in the neck, and the posterior berlumuran blood.
2. Professor out of the hospital in 2 days.
3. Knife is not clearly derived from, and found without a handle.
4. The university cloak this incident.
Speculation and possibilities David What is the professor when he is being couch facing a computer screen? If that is correct, it is not possible at this time professor has been returned to the house with healthy wal afiat. Whether the professor is that the David? This is possible, because the evidence and facts that have led to these conclusions. Motifnya Then what? Until now, only God and Professor Chan Kap Luk know. However, at this time santer outstanding news that the Professor would like to seize the property of David FYP. This is supported by the testimony of a friend David says David FYP is almost finished. What may be a Professor and lecturers from universities in developed countries would seize the property of FYP students themselves? In fact, it is very possible
occurred. A person who is hearing news about the death of David told a friend on a course-A-, that a professor at NTU, in a different direction, to give a value D on the A FYP, and the professor offers to create a new FYP, and he will give the value B, provided that the previous FYP will become the property of the Professor. What sounds strange? Yes, the professor would like to seize the property rights to the FYP A with iming2 value. So this is actually not new at NTU, only this time it ends tragic end for David because he does not want to give rights to FYPnya. Once again, this is speculation, but it is far more logical than the media coverage and NTU. Ming, at this time I have ever lo, I have more that we can do for lo, in addition to the lo pulihin name, and declare the truth, a quiet rest lo aja there. RIP, ming. Guys, how do I now what the families are trying Hartanto opponent? NTU, a famous university singapore government! For comparison is at ITB.
What can be done a few people: the family who only live Hartanto smth, the size of the family teman2, amounting to tens of hundreds? NTU is it against? Yes! How? We must declare the truth must be revealed sejelas2nya without the diubah2 or ditutup2i. At this time, we as fellow users, please deposit it-width of this, so many people more concerned about this case and the investigation will be done more, at least not until the people who think that David was guilty, because it is clearly not correct. Tell this to friends, relatives, and I copylah any posts in this blog / forum / facebook / myspace you, I will not charge for copyright. Thanks.
Greetings posted by cl4y_m4n at 00:39 0